Almost from the beginning of my blog I’ve had a follower named Frank. Of course, I don’t really know if Frank is who he says he is, but I assume he is until I learn differently. Frank is a Liberal millenial, Oxford scholar and disagrees with nearly everything I say. I’ve become very fond of Frank because I appreciate that he has never sunk to calling me names. And I enjoy our discussions even though Frank seldom sticks to the subject of the blog he comments on. I thought my readers might enjoy one of our discussions. My replies are in bold.
Have you actually seriously studied what it means to be a “Conservative” (AKA…Republican?) GEE, NO, I’ve only been one all my life. If the USA adopted “conservative” policies, we’d still be driving Model T Fords, Michael. LOL! What nonsense! They want the world to never change and want things the way they “used to be.” (Thank God progress was made since 1900)
I always love when Liberals tell Conservatives who they are…..as if they know! I know, I know, Conservatives, are old White, racist, homophobes, bigots, nationalists, islamophobes, etc., etc.
As Reagan said, “It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.”
Republican governance at the Presidential or Congressional level has preceded more severe economic downturns (i.e. Depressions), notably the 1929 Depression which followed over a decade of Republican dominance in both branches. Look it up, Michael! Hoover was the POTUS and he was a “conservative” (aka Republican)
Actually, although I know you Lefties like to blame Republicans, the causes of recessions and depressions take more than a few years to reach the breaking point. Major European banks went bankrupt which was the start of the depression. The causes of the Great Depression didn’t start under Hoover and Roosevelt extended the depression many years longer than necessary with his policies.
And then came Bush 2 who tanked the economy and caused the Great Recession…but I am quite certain you already knew that. Hoover=Bush2…agree?
NO, Again, the crash happened during Bush but wasn’t caused by him. It was caused by Jimmy Carter’s “Neighborhood Reinvestment Act”. It was put on steroids by Bill Clinton. If banks wanted Fanny and Freddie to insure their mortgages a certain percentage of them had to be sub-prime. These were mortgages to low income people who wouldn’t qualify for them. This created many more home buyers (with no increase in the number of homes) which increased the price of homes and caused a housing bubble. Sub-prime buyers paid interest only with a balloon payment in 5 years on homes selling for more than they were worth. Buyers were told home prices were increasing and when their balloon payment came due they could refinance. At the same time, the banks, to protect themselves from these bad loans, bundled them with good loans and sold them. The SEC rated these bundles AAA (they shouldn’t have). When the housing bubble burst, people couldn’t refinance their homes and the bundles banks were selling were nearly worthless. None of that was Bush’s fault…..but nice try.
We are currently in a state of party governance very similar to the 1929 Depression, with Republican control over both the Presidency and Congress over much of the past two years. (with a president who is orange and has yellow hair!!!)
When will you Lefties GET that we don’t care about Trump’s hair, fake tan, tweeting, sex life ten years ago, etc. We CARE that he is securing the border, improving the economy, lowering unemployment, making us energy independent, getting hostages released, denuclearizing N. Korea, renegotiating trade deals that screwed America (EU & USA zero tariffs), bringing companies back to America and keeping companies here, getting NATO countries to pony up more money, ending business crushing regulations, cutting taxes, etc. The GDP today was 4.3. The average during Obama was 1.8. AND just yesterday Turkey released an American hostage. Obama never even tried. The world knows Trump’s American is not going to apologize for being successful and, unlike previous Presidents since Bush Sr. signed Agenda 21, Trump’s America will take a back seat to no one. YAY!!
1. An aversion to rapid change; a belief that tradition and prevailing social norms often contain within them handed down wisdom; and mistrust of attempts to remake society so that it conforms to an abstract account of what would be just or efficient.
I’m sure there are Conservative AND Liberals who don’t like change. I’m not one of them, nor do I know anyone who is (and I know a LOT of Conservatives). I travel a lot, usually by myself. I don’t like public speaking but I do a lot of it. I spend a great deal of my time out of my comfort zone.
But change for the sake of change is no virtue. And all change is not good. Changing from Capitalism to Socialism/Communism, would NOT be good and, YES, Conservatives would and should resist such a change.
Traditions, yes, they are very important. They are what bonds people together. When I was your age, Frank, I didn’t think they were very important either but as you grow older you realize just how important they are to people’s wellbeing.
And yes, wisdom comes from past mistakes. As they say, if you don’t know history, you are bound to repeat it. Socialism has been tried a million times and has never worked. That is wisdom that NEEDS to be passed down to millennials.
There is no way to make things “fair or just” for all people. Life is not fair. But everyone has a talent or something they love and/or are good at. People shouldn’t be protected from failure. Failure is a learning experience. What Lefties don’t understand is that they DON’T know what is best for others and the idea that they do, is arrogant, demeaning, sexist, and racist.
2. A desire to preserve the political philosophy and rules of government articulated in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
Guilty as charged and proud of it! Our Constitution is the oldest in the world for a reason. It WORKS! What exactly is outdated about “all men are created equal”? Or three EQUAL branches of government? Or that we have unalienable rights to INDIVIDUAL Liberty? Or that government was instituted to protect our INDIVIDUAL Liberty?
YES, we love the Constitution because our Founders knew there would be people (Liberals) who would work to infringe on our rights. Why are my rights not as important to you as the rights you imagine illegal aliens have?
Our Founders knew people were capable of determining their own fate given the freedom to do so. They didn’t presume to know better. Yes, I will fight to preserve our Constitution until I draw my last breath.
BTW, If you think our Constitution is imperfect, our wise Founders gave us the way to change it. It’s called the Amendment. It was intended to be a long difficult process to avoid generational whims. It was not called judicial activism.
3. A belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, through cultural norms.
Many cultural “norms” have been overturned. Some good, some not. You assume all change is good. It isn’t. And, as our Founders noted, our form of government needs a religious morality to maintain it. The “tradition” of valuing life is a good one. Normalizing killing a baby minutes before birth places no value on life.
Teaching our children there are a hundred genders (anti-science) or how to perform safe anal sex is not change for the better. Nor is normalizing deviant behavior. There IS good and bad change. There IS good and evil.
4. A belief that it is imperative to preserve traditional morality, as it is articulated in the Bible, using cultural norms and the power of the state.
This is the same as #3 except for adding “and the power of the state”. Funny you don’t equate using the power of the state to protect life with using the power of the state to force people to go against their religious beliefs. Sorry, but it’s the Left that LOVES using courts to overturn the will of the people. It’s the Left that uses the power of the state to force people to violate their beliefs. Or to take their plastic bags, straws, cars, private property, etc. But, it’s interesting that while the Left uses the power of the state to force Christians to violate their beliefs, they use the same power of the state to protect Muslims from violating THEIR religious beliefs. Consistency from the Left would be nice.
5. An embrace of free-market capitalism, and a belief in the legitimacy of market outcomes.
Again, guilty as charged and proud of it! Capitalism has raised more people out of poverty than any other system. It is the ONLY system that a person can be born into poverty and become a millionaire. Please tell me what other system makes that possible. It’s a no brainer!!
As far as faith in the legitimacy of market outcomes is concerned, we have faith in the outcome without government interference. Whatever outcomes you think are unfair, have been created by government (generally Democrats, but admittedly also Republicans) giving subsidies, tax breaks, or other benefits to one company that gives it an advantage over others. We need to condemn and try to change government interference NOT Capitalism.
6. A belief that America is an exceptional nation, a shining city on a hill, whose rightful role is the leader of the free world.
We ARE exceptional. Who invented, the plane, the car, the cell phone, and just about everything else that makes life worth living? Who has the highest standard of living in the world? Who, against ALL odds, won a war against the greatest military in the world? Our founding was a miracle.
7. A belief that America should export its brand of democracy through force of arms.
Wrong. Other than show by example, we’re the people who believe others are responsible for their own fate.
I know the Bushes gave lip service to spreading democracy but since they are globalists I don’t think they were very serious.
What Conservatives DO believe is that there is peace through strength. We agree with Churchill that you carry a big stick. We have the finest military on the planet and it should be well funded, up to date and filled with lean, mean fighting machines ready if needed. What we don’t believe the military should be is a social justice experiment.
The Left loves to say we’re imperialists or colonists but after we bombed Japan we could have turned to the rest of the world and said, “We’re the boss now”……..we could have, we didn’t. When we won the war with Mexico, we could have said Mexico belonged to us. ALL OF IT! We didn’t. We signed a treaty, paid millions for the land in dispute, and gave them the rest.
Bush 2 and Herbert Hoover were the Republican presidents during the Great Recession and the Great Depression. (Of course, you probably already knew that) Of course I didn’t, because it isn’t true.
Let’s get with the times Michael and vote for and support more progress in our country. Deal?
NEVER! I’ve fought socialism/communism my whole life, I’m not about to embrace it now. And WHY would I? It’s NEVER worked and always ends in screaming and dying.
I doubt anyone who knows me would say I’m not “with the times”.
BTW, I did watch the Oscars when Jamie Foxx won as best actor and he did mention Kim. Proud mom you must be! Very! I’m very proud of both my girls.